tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post8499017679713934486..comments2023-10-15T05:17:22.939-07:00Comments on The Raucous Royals: The Tudors: Historical vs. HollywoodBearded Ladyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06182921236123895352noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-29105605093893384902011-09-01T07:18:49.703-07:002011-09-01T07:18:49.703-07:00The Tudors was a show that took us back into the t...<a href="http://the-tudors.otavo.tv/" rel="nofollow">The Tudors</a> was a show that took us back into the time of kings, how they maintained their rule, took care of political matters, defeated their enemies in battles and at the same time took care of their lavish personal lives.amauryonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06250920472704934711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-20691812570843141272009-10-27T14:24:52.012-07:002009-10-27T14:24:52.012-07:00I do not understand why viewers and critics are ma...I do not understand why viewers and critics are making a big deal over the historical inaccuracies of "THE TUDORS". They tend to act as if this is something new. Historical inaccuracies in works of fiction has been around for a very, very long time. Even some of Shakespeare's work has historical inaccuracies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-58383663039831571522009-08-22T10:19:45.533-07:002009-08-22T10:19:45.533-07:00And a minor historical inaccuracy: when opening in...And a minor historical inaccuracy: when opening in a scene in the Southern Netherlands, the subtitles called it Spanish Netherlands - though this region was not called Spanish Netherlands until 1579! (33 years later)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-8285424145883743232009-08-19T04:34:21.353-07:002009-08-19T04:34:21.353-07:00i'm a great fan of The Tudors and always put t...i'm a great fan of The Tudors and always put the historical facts to the back of my mind when watching it, preferring the sit back and wallow in the unfolding drama, no matter how much it differs from the reality of the times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-13223986485333512942009-05-09T13:27:00.000-07:002009-05-09T13:27:00.000-07:00Mostly, I am a stickler for accuracy when it comes...Mostly, I am a stickler for accuracy when it comes to the Tudors. I regard the Tudors more as a guilty pleasure kind of thing even though I did get annoyed at several inaccuracies such as the blending of Henry's sisters,the fact that Mary/Margaret married a French king and not the King of Portugal and the fact they had Mary/Margaret kill off the King by suffocation.There was no Henry Percy and the suicide of Cardinal Woolsey was over the top.I have just recently found your blog and find it fascinating, please keep the thread going, it's great!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-48025136409386514172009-04-30T12:43:00.000-07:002009-04-30T12:43:00.000-07:00I love your blog and am very happy to see that you...I love your blog and am very happy to see that you are giving us a history vs. Hollywood look into The Tudor dynasty - I am a big history nut and this is just fabulous! Keep it coming please!!Sarah Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-1059371485682298332009-04-29T11:09:00.000-07:002009-04-29T11:09:00.000-07:00oh, I missed that one! I will have to add that to ...oh, I missed that one! I will have to add that to the post on episode 3. No, there should be no forks yet in England. (They called them the devil's pitch fork). And yes, you are correct...they were used in Italy. Catherine de Medici brought them over to France and from there they spread to England. <br /><br />btw, if anyone notices any other inaccuracies can you please post them on the episode that you saw them in.<br /><br />Here is the post for episode 2:<br />http://blog.raucousroyals.com/2009/04/tudors-historical-vs-hollywood-episode.html<br /><br />Episode 3:<br />http://blog.raucousroyals.com/2009/04/tudors-historical-vs-hollywood-episode_20.html<br /><br />Episode 4:<br />http://blog.raucousroyals.com/2009/04/showtimes-tudors-historical-vs.htmlBearded Ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06182921236123895352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-55886055248367351212009-04-29T10:53:00.000-07:002009-04-29T10:53:00.000-07:00This may be a strange question, but Jane is seen u...This may be a strange question, but Jane is seen using a fork while eating quail eggs. Were forks used at this time in England, I know they were used in Italy but I don't know if it spread to northern Europe.Jim Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-7134164609059218292009-04-28T04:56:00.000-07:002009-04-28T04:56:00.000-07:00Kasandra – I will have to add that one to the post...Kasandra – I will have to add that one to the post on episode 4 (http://blog.raucousroyals.com/2009/04/showtimes-tudors-historical-vs.html) because the son features prominently in that episode. Thanks for the update. <br /><br />I actually thought the son was supposed to represent the 4th Thomas Howard because in season 3 Charles Brandon has become an amalgamation of himself and Thomas Howard, The third Duke of Norfolk. Howard did have a son that was roughly the age of the mop-haired boy. (he is adorable!) but of course he was not married to Catherine Willoughby. ugh. Kind of a mess. Not sure how to detangle that one. <br /><br />The amalgamation of Suffolk and Norfolk actually bothers me more than the amalgamation of the sisters, because now they have to continue this mess with Catherine Howard’s story into season 4. (Instead of Norfolk securing her position in Anne of Cleves’ household and selling her out at the end...they are now going to have to have Suffolk play his role.)weird? <br /><br />But overall this season has pulled tons of real history into the series that has made me forgive the mucking with the characters.Bearded Ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06182921236123895352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-63078473425622633832009-04-27T22:40:00.000-07:002009-04-27T22:40:00.000-07:00I am so happy I discovered your history vs. hollyw...I am so happy I discovered your history vs. hollywood Tudors blog! I enjoy the series - and also enjoy spotting inaccuracies. You haven't mentioned that cute mop-haired son of Charles Brandon. He couldn't be son #1 (Henry) by Mary Tudor, since he died in 1534, two years before Anne was beheaded, at age 18. And his next two sons by Catherine Willoughby, Henry and Charles, were born 1535 and 1537 - too young to be that cute toddler who pleaded to witness the execution in 1536. Another example of artistic license, albeit nowhere as eggregious as conflating Henry's two sisters :-)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14301290024912296135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-21904359200834253272009-04-15T20:58:00.000-07:002009-04-15T20:58:00.000-07:00I just wanted to say I love your blog! Definitely ...I just wanted to say I love your blog! Definitely keep this thread going, it's such a neat idea for a history nerd like me! lol. :DMelissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04532009090673867039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-69558577338754061172009-04-13T20:21:00.000-07:002009-04-13T20:21:00.000-07:00Keep the thread going! I love the show and also co...Keep the thread going! I love the show and also contrasting the fiction with the facts!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-52512696644569703712009-04-13T05:00:00.000-07:002009-04-13T05:00:00.000-07:00a new update is posted covering episode 2.http://b...a new update is posted covering episode 2.<BR/><BR/>http://blog.raucousroyals.com/2009/04/tudors-historical-vs-hollywood-episode.htmlBearded Ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06182921236123895352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-32222309228550757342009-04-11T09:46:00.000-07:002009-04-11T09:46:00.000-07:00This is fascinating. I hope you continue to update...This is fascinating. I hope you continue to update it!ralenthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14780600949800354302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-71067297657722043692009-04-11T06:23:00.000-07:002009-04-11T06:23:00.000-07:00Please continue your blogs on Historical v Hollywo...Please continue your blogs on Historical v Hollywood. I absolutely LOVE the show but it's very nice to hear from someone who can iron out all the details. Thanks!marinaeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07169104644598660135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-42075459877114084632009-04-09T01:46:00.000-07:002009-04-09T01:46:00.000-07:00I don't know if anyone else mentioned this but I h...I don't know if anyone else mentioned this but I heard the actor who played Norfolk left the show, which is why they've had to divvy up his role to other characters.History Chickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07984934236728821742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-54723003424234433542009-04-07T13:10:00.000-07:002009-04-07T13:10:00.000-07:00Please do keep posting these reviews! I love this ...Please do keep posting these reviews! I love this show... although I have to admit that I am not necessarily "feeling" this third season. Has anyone else noticed that this is a new Jane Seymour??? What happned to the girl in season 2? Also, this season just doesn't seem as sexuall and vibrant as season 2... Still, I will of course keep watching. Very intereting details - can't wait to see your notes on episode 2. Thank god for "onDemand" cause I've already been able to see it!Hello Vodka, It's Me...Kassyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00679020205583288351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-39825173586845804712009-04-06T17:49:00.000-07:002009-04-06T17:49:00.000-07:00Thanks for everyone's responses. I will have a new...Thanks for everyone's responses. I will have a new post this Sunday on episode 2 of season 3.<BR/><BR/>I can't claim to know what makes a good drama, but I am guessing that the producers chose to amalgamate Mary and Margaret in an effort to keep the focus on Henry and the subplots down to a minimum. The Tudors will not be going into the story of Mary Queen of Scots or Lady Jane Grey. The series will end with Katherine Parr. <BR/><BR/>If possible, I would like to keep the focus on season 3 and not errors in season 1. Mary is dead by this point and Margaret is left stuck in Scotland whining to her brother that no one loves her. (No one did). So Henry’s sister are irrelevant to this storyline. <BR/><BR/>As far as Henry VIII not getting fat, I believe the producers wanted to keep the image of Henry as glamorous sexpot because they feared viewers might tune out if they saw a big fat blob being hoisted onto his horse. I don’t agree with this decision. Henry was obviously not the rock star of his youth and this distortion pushes the suspension of belief off the deep end. <BR/><BR/>Still, I do think the puss filled leg wound and unctuous hairstyle might placate viewers angered by Myers rock hard abs. Or maybe you can just enjoy the rock hard abs? I know I will.Bearded Ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06182921236123895352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-65550644092729562772009-04-06T17:16:00.000-07:002009-04-06T17:16:00.000-07:00I love the show but it bothers me that Henry's age...I love the show but it bothers me that Henry's age and weight are so wrong. And yes, we do know what he looked like. He was 45 and prior to his marriage to Jane it took 8 men to get him up a flight of stairs when he was injured in a joust. He didn't get the chicks because he was hot.If Mr.Myers won't gain a little weight, at least cover the washboard abs. It's for your art, man!Is there no one on set that can make this guy look gross?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-82221852081665303002009-04-06T17:03:00.000-07:002009-04-06T17:03:00.000-07:00I thought Jeremy Northams portrayal of sir thomas ...I thought Jeremy Northams portrayal of sir thomas more was the high point of this series it really touched meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-25146748950871997602009-04-06T17:00:00.000-07:002009-04-06T17:00:00.000-07:00Miss Mahon is absolutely correct about this flagra...Miss Mahon is absolutely correct about this flagrant mistake in the first season There were two Tudor sisters of henry they were the princesses mary and margret. Margret married King James the fourth of Scotland and The younger princess Mary wedded the aged King Louis the Twelth of France Mary was known as '' The French Queen'' Although this may be a small matter,it of the gravest importance to British History for it was through Margret Tudor that the royal lines of Stuart and that of Hanover came to being. Princess Mary married Charles Brandon, they had issue a daughter named Frances who married Henry Grey of Dorset their eldest daughter Jane ,The Lady Jane Grey, known to history as ''The Nine Days Queen'' who was executed in 1554.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-79272923864618970322009-04-06T16:41:00.000-07:002009-04-06T16:41:00.000-07:00I completely enjoy your "comments" and writings so...I completely enjoy your "comments" and writings so PLEASE MADAM.....continue!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-85771357815438068842009-04-06T11:10:00.000-07:002009-04-06T11:10:00.000-07:00Please keep the thread going. I understand the re...Please keep the thread going. I understand the reason for the inaccuracies (good looking actors (H. Cavill-mmmm), flow of story lines, etc. I think that adding more soap opera might entice people to go to the library or on line and read more of the historical facts and learn. Anything that gets people interested in learning more is good!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-84985752104595159482009-04-06T10:11:00.000-07:002009-04-06T10:11:00.000-07:00I am glad I found your blog. I am a big Tudor fan ...I am glad I found your blog. I am a big Tudor fan and love watching JRM as King Henry. Thank youQueen Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01004661013220143496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-816215309027871000.post-8068403291915730532009-04-06T09:09:00.000-07:002009-04-06T09:09:00.000-07:00Though a bit disgruntled about the liberties taken...Though a bit disgruntled about the liberties taken with the facts, I still love the show. This thread will save me a lot of time Googling the history of the Tudors after each episode - please continue the thread :) (Google isn't as humorous as you, either.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com